The Last Outpost Forums ( )Uber Storage!


cyke | December 19, 2005 at 11:03 PM

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Weren't we all glad when DVD's came out and we could burn more than 4 GB on each? Didn't we feel like we can store everything on them, compared to good old CD's?

Well glad the companies are still trying to outrun each other and are developing new products that will benefit us all very well. One of them is defenetly Maxell with its new product called HDV (Holographic Versatile Disc).

Maxell tells us that it will put affordable HDV's on market late next year, which will be able to hold 300 GB data. Drive's transfer rate will be 20 MB/sec, which will mean burning a disc will take as little as 4 hours, but if we think of lead-in and all other sort of stuff, we could well be looking at 5 long hours.

But Maxell says this is only the beginning. They say that technology is capable of 1.6 TB at transfer rate of 120 MB/sec.

'Holographic recording technology utilizes intersecting signal and reference laser beams to store data in a number of 3D hologram images capable of saving hundreds of data pages in a single location. One 5? inch-diameter optical disc can store up to 150 million pages -- more than 63 times the capacity of DVD. Also, with holographic recording, a multiple of form factors, such as discs, cards, etc, and laser wavelengths (red, green, and blue) can be used.' explained NE Asia Online.

"Unlike other technologies that record one data bit at a time, holography allows a million bits of data to be written and read in parallel with a single flash of light. This enables transfer rates significantly higher than current optical storage devices," said Liz Murphy, vice president of marketing for InPhase Technologies.

"Holographic media makes it possible for millions of pages of information and high-definition images to be held on one small, relatively inexpensive disc," said Steven Pofcher, senior marketing manager at Maxell.

HDV is expected to have lower price per GB then any other storage media.

Lets just hope they delivered it when they say they will. Imagine how many backed up movies you could store on there (hint: approximately 66 DVD?s and 428 ripped movies).

Pete | December 20, 2005 at 07:55 AM

Yeah, read smoething about this in Micromart a weel ago. Maxell aren't the leaders in this thing. I think the other guys who started the ball rolling with holographics storage are waiting til they can releasea reliable enough drive - I think with the holograms and the light beams getting bits of data from them that one slight tap of your PC buggers up the reader at the moment.

It's one of the problems they'll have to overcome before any kind of release or the whole thing will just be a joke. It's such a sensitive technology and prone to dust and knocks at this early stage. I do look forward to the toher company's (can't remember their name) predictions of 1 petabyte (that's enough to store your life on pretty much) disks in the not-so-distant future.

Azrael Strife | December 20, 2005 at 03:15 PM

Petabyte? how much is that? (1 Terabyte is 1000 GB, right?)

Wow, I'm impressed with that article, haven't heard of holographic technology and most certainly look forward to hearing more from that!

Pete | December 20, 2005 at 05:05 PM

I think it's a thousand terabytes. The article I read went on to say something like if you recorded everything you see on TV or DVD in a lifetime at 320 x 240 resolution, with mono sound, you could fit it on a petabyte disk.

Dunno whether it's true, or whether the average person died young or what, but it puts a bit of perspective on how big a petabyte is

The best leaps forward as far as home computers are concerned will happen when these disks replace Hard Drives. The access speeds are supposedly going to go up to several gigabytes a second in future - bit more than Maxell are estimating for the near future

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Ki-tat Chung | December 23, 2005 at 03:47 PM

yeah, the cpu industry has come to a bit of a standstill...traditionally, they increased speed by reducing the size of the transistors etc. and now they've come to a bit of a limit. if they go any smaller, theres stuff like cross talk and electron leakage, so now their moving to multi-core.

In terms of storage, just in DVD, the near future we may well have another format war much like the VHS\Betamax war, with Bluray and HD DVD formats.

Pete | December 23, 2005 at 03:55 PM

Nah, this Holographic DVD hardware is quite literally going to end the fight jsut as it's beginnign to start between those two. They just don't have the same capacity or possibilites as this holographic technology, and with Maxell saying they can do a 300GB disk next year and have it affordable, the other two have got no chance whatsoever.

FullAuto | January 23, 2006 at 06:42 PM

Well, if it becomes the new media for films and games and so on, it's going to be a bit of a waste, isn't it? I mean, perhaps not in the case of games, but surely a film, unless it's truly marathon, will only take up a fraction of 300Gb?

Buying ten films per disc? I'm just thinking that it's going to be more expensive than DVD, right, so how are they going to justify the cost?

Pete | January 23, 2006 at 07:09 PM

Toshiba (or whoever) say the media is going to cost very little. I look forward to seeing what their idea of very little is though

FullAuto | January 23, 2006 at 07:38 PM

Well, Microsoft have mentioned a HDDVD for the Xbox 360, and PS3 is what's going to happen to those boys when this stuff hits the streets? The latest consoles are going to be yesterday's news.